| Town Council Minutes 15 July 2009 |
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MINUTES OF A MEETING OF AMPTHILL TOWN COUNCIL held at the Council Offices, 66 Dunstable Street, Ampthill on Wednesday 15th July 2009 at 7.30pm Present: Councillors: Cllr R A Holden (Chairman), Mrs S Bacon, P Duckett, P A Eversley Mrs P K Foster G Pascal, G Summerfield, Mrs M E Wilson, Mrs M Wright and Dawn Sutherns, Clerk. Also present were four members of the public and P.C Paul Element.
Apologies were received from R A D Chappell (illness) Cllr M A Smith (holiday) and R Tebbutt (holiday).
Dr W De Groot of 25 Church Street addressed the Council on the matter of the many disturbances that residents in the vicinity of the Town Centre regularly suffer on Fridays and Saturdays in the early hours of the morning. Residents feel that since the extension to the licence for the White Hart Hotel to 2am the incidents of anti social behaviour have increased and residents have doors knocked on, windows broken, people urinating in the street and criminal damage, all being caused by people who are around at this time in the early mornings. Concern is felt over the fact that when people are ejected from the White Hart by the door staff they leave in an agitated manner and this can lead to problems. Councillor Holden thanked Dr De Groot and asked Members if they wished to bring the agenda item relating the White Hart forward to this part of the meeting. This was agreed.
Councillor P Duckett declared a personal and prejudicial interest in this item as he is a Publican in the Town. Councillor G Pascal had been advised that he may have to think about declaring a personal and prejudicial interest in this matter as he lives on the same road as this business and had publicised his views on a local community website. Councillor R Holden advised Members that although the Town Council has every sympathy with the residents, the Town Council as a Corporate Body are not legally allowed to ask for a review of the licence. The persons that can apply are:
As such Ampthill Town Council has no powers in this matter. Councillor R Holden allowed Mr P Duckett to speak as a member of the public on this matter. Mr Duckett advised that there is a formula for taking this matter forward before any review can be sought. A mediation meeting needs to be held with interested parties, the Police and the Licensing Officer of Central Bedfordshire Council to try and seek a solution to the problem. If no solution can be found then the matter can go to a review. Councillor P Duckett left the building as he had declared a personal and prejudicial interest in this item. Councillor G Summerfield advised that in the past a group had been set up and worked towards addressing the problems of that time, this type of group could be formed again as the matter cannot be ignored. Standing Orders were suspended at 7.20pm to allow Central Bedfordshire Councillor M Gibson to address the meeting. Councillor Gibson advised that would be difficult calling for review without carrying out mediation first. The Licensing Authority i.e Central Bedfordshire may be able to mediate in this instance, P. C. P Element advised that the Landlord of the White Hart is doing above what he is required by law to do. When the licence was extended to 2am there was no Police Licensing Officer in place and therefore it may be that the Police were not seen to be against the extension in opening hours. There are Police patrols in the vicinity of the Town Centre on Friday and Saturday nights and the door staff assist the Police by ensuring people leave the area and they then go around picking up bottles. The CCTV system has assisted in reducing the amount of incidents occurring. A number of assaults have had arrests made on them and the people have also bee caught that broke the window in Earl’s Restaurant. The White Hart is sometimes blamed for things that re nothing to do with it, a recent noise disturbance was caused by people who had been dropped by a minibus after a night out in Bedford. The White Hart Hotel is only responsible for the footpath directly outside the premises, when people move off it becomes a Police matter. P.C. Element then advised that he would go back to his Sergeant to see if Police Officers can be spread out from the centre of town to try and prevent incidents further away from the centre. Councillor Holden advised that the Clerk had sought information on the cost and maintenance cost for two further cameras; one on Church Street looking back to the Market Square and one outside 101 Dunstable Street. A resident advised that one of the major noise disturbances is of bottles being emptied into a bin at 3am. P.C. Element advised he would talk about this with the Landlord and request that this is done the next morning. Standing Orders were resumed at 7.30pm Members went on to discuss this matter further before it was: Resolved that: i) Following a representation from many members of the public raising the problems in the Town Centre on Thursday, Friday and Saturday a meeting is to be sought between the Licensing Authority, the Police interested parties and local Landlords to discuss this matter. ii) The Clerk is to write to Barbara Morris, Assistant Legal Director and the Licensing Officer at Central Bedfordshire to enquire what Ampthill Town Council are able to do to assist in anyway. iii) If a mediation meeting does not work then local residents themselves can raise the matter through the form available on the Central Bedfordshire website, www.centralbedfordshire.gov.uk. iv) The correspondence is to be copied to Dr De Groot, all other letter writers, Councillor M Gibson and the Ampthill Safety Group. Councillor P Duckett returned to the meeting.
P.C Element advised that PCSO Sarah Goldsmith has joined the team in Ampthill and is settling in well with the other members of the team. P.C Element then went on to give the following information:
P.C Element then requested that the Council consider installing bollards along the wide area of pavement in Bedford Street to prevent vehicles being parked on it. Resolved that this matter be placed on the agenda for the October meeting of the Parks, Burial Ground and Open Spaces Committee, costs are to be sought for bollards similar to those on the Market Square and large oblong heavy planters. P.C Element also requested that further CCTV signage be placed on the playground fencing, the tennis court and entrances to car parking areas in Ampthill Park. Members asked P.C Element to answer questions which resulted in the following information being given in answer:
Councillor R Holden thanked P.C Element for his interesting report, P.C Element then left the meeting. The Clerk has made some enquires as to whether it would be possible to install two more cameras one on Church Street looking back towards the town centre and the other in the vicinity of 101 Dunstable Street. The following information has been obtained from Stevenage Borough Council:
As the surveys are free of charge the Clerk has authorised for these to be carried out so that the Council have figures available to consider at the October estimates meeting if it is decided that further cameras are a necessity.
Councillor P Duckett had previously recorded his personal interest in the matter concerning the White Hart Hotel as he is a publican in the Town. Councillor G Summerfield declared his personal interest in the item concerning a grant towards Ampthill Town Band as he is a guest player in the band at times. Councillor Mrs M Wright declared a personal interest in a payment to Barry Wright Partnership as this is her husband’s company.
Councillor P Duckett had previously recorded his prejudicial interest in the matter concerning the White Hart Hotel as he is a publican in the Town. Councillor Mrs M Wright declared a personal interest in a payment to Barry Wright Partnership as this is her husband’s company.
Councillor Holden commenced his announcements by advising of the success of the talks with Ampthill District Lions to hold a community firework display on 6th November this year. Thanks were given to P.C Element for his assistance with this. The following events had been attended over the last month:
Festival in Parkside Hall, judging the entries in the procession; finishing with the Songs of Praise in St Andrew’s Church, all in all a day for Ampthill to be proud of!
Councillor Holden then advised Members that he has set the Civic Service date this year for 6th September at 6.30pm at St Andrew’s Church. The Bishop of Bedford will be on attendance.
The minutes having been circulated to Members prior to the meeting were taken as read. The minutes were then signed as a true copy. Matters arising from previous minutes for note.
The Clerk has arranged for a presentation to the Finance Working Group from RBS software on Wednesday 28th October at 6.00pm. There is no cost to the Council.
The updates to the original sheet issued last month were given to Councillors, the next Councillors Surgery is to be held on Friday 24th July 6.00 to 8.00pm in the Waitrose store entrance. It was advised that the overhanging branches along the Kings Arms Path need to be cut back away from the Path. The Clerk advised she would ask the Park Keepers to do this work.
Vicki Francis will shortly be convening a meeting of the Working Group – provisionally on the evening of Monday 27th July 2009.
P.C Element has advised that there are not anywhere near enough incidents to warrant taking the CCTV camera away from areas such as Biggleswade and he would not be able to take a strong enough case from Police figures to arrange for the mobile CCTV unit to be placed in this location. Jane Regan Mid Beds District Council as advised that she would be happy to have some involvement and could help with getting young people views or some form of consultation. The Youth Group cold lead on this. Jane runs a project called My Shout which gains young peoples views about community safety issues and it would be good to have some form of representation from this youth group. Jane is happy to support and work together. The information has been forwarded to Nicola King, Youth Participation Officer for Aragon. Treasurer’s Report
Members were provided with the report as appended to these minutes. Resolved that the report be noted.
Members were provided with the report as appended to these minutes. Resolved that: i) the report be noted. i) that details of the money received for the grass cutting from Central Bedfordshire is to be brought to the next meeting. ii) the cost of the Market adverts is to be vied from the publicity expenditure into Market publicity expenditure.
Members were provided with the list as appended to these minutes. Resolved that all monies on the list be paid.
Resolved that the Town Council opt to tax the new buildings; Visitor’s Centre and replacement tractor shed in Ampthill Park.
Ampthill Town Band application for a donation of £1,000 under the Local Government Act 1972 Section 145 (support for the arts) towards the purchase of a new musical instrument. Resolved that a grant of £1,000 be paid to Ampthill Town Band
Councillor Holden advised that this year’s show was a success, but in talking to Members of the Allotment Association it was felt that as the exhibitors at the show increase more room may be needed. The Clerk advised that the Parkside hire fee would be £103.00. Alternatively the Town Council could award a grant to Allotment Association to assist in the cost. If this arrangement would be impractical for the hirers of the Nottingham Rooms to go into Parkside Hall as all their equipment is stored in the Nottingham Rooms. Resolved that a letter be sent to the Allotment Association making the offer of possible use of the Parkside Hall and asking if they wish to take advantage of this. To approve and adopt the Committee report as follows:
The minutes having been circulated to Members prior to the meeting were taken as read. Members declaring interests asked for whether they had a personal or prejudice interest to be noted:
In regards to the recommendation for minute no 6 the following wording is to be added: “Several Members were concerned about the cost of this building both in terms of the construction and running costs” In regards to the recommendation for minute no 7 the following wording is to be added: “The persons carrying out the work are to be responsible for paying their own tax.” In regards to minute no 11 the wording of the recommendation is to be amended to: “That an extensive search is first carried out to ascertain if any grower or producer is willing to attend the Farmers Market within a 30 mile radius. If no grower or producer can be found then the ruling can be extended to a wider area.” The minutes were then signed as a true copy as amended. It was then: Resolved that for coming Farmers Markets the Producer of fruit and vegetables from Lincolnshire can attend until the search is completed, if a producer is found within the 30mile radius this person will take precedence.
The minutes having been circulated to Members prior to the meeting were taken as read The minutes were then signed as a true copy.
The minutes having been circulated to Members prior to the meeting were taken as read The following Councillors are to be deleted from those in attendance:
The minutes were then signed as a true copy as amended.
Members had been provided with a copy of the report. A member questioned whether the cut off date of 31st July to get back to the Lighting Contractor had been mentioned at the meeting, other attendees confirmed it had. Resolved the report be noted.
Members had been provided with a copy of the report. Resolved that the report be noted.
Members had been provided with a copy of the report. In relation to the end of the first bullet point the following wording is to be added: “ David Bowie is awaiting the drawings from the former Bedfordshire County Council” Resolved that the report be noted as amended.
Members had been provided with a copy of the report. Resolved that the report be noted.
Cllr G Pascal gave a short report on the meeting; it was very well attended and there is still unease from everybody. There is concern over the difference between the Covanta bid and the BEAR project. The consultation meetings with Covanta had been announced. A letter is to be sent to local papers. The group is to reconvene after 23rd July; Stewartby Parish Council will arrange the date and venue. The report from the meeting is as appended to these minutes.
The following recommendations were made: a) Lamps and Tubes Illuminations Ltd be contracted to put up and take down our existing lighting display this year at a quoted cost of £3881.00 and to install and pull test two new additional safety brackets (above wooden sills in Bedford St & Woburn St) at a cost of £94.50 each. The installation cost included 4 maintenance visits once the lights are up and attendance of a L&T rep on switch on day. b) John Bacon and Donna Searle to compile a list of requirements for Lamps & Tubes, such as when the lights need to go up, come down, setting of time clocks, meter readings and the switch on date. c) Ask Lamps and Tubes to provide a cost for new 3watt single colour bulbs, mixed colours, in our existing festoon. This information is needed for the next meeting so a recommendation can be made to full council on 16 September 2009. The Lights Committee have determined that a maximum budget of £4,000 should be allocated for new bulbs. d) Ask the Full Council to carry forward any unspent capital cost into the 2010/11 financial year budget. e) Apply to Central Bedfordshire for a grant towards the Lights. f) The Secretary to make enquiries about a Highway Licence. Information had been received that Lamps and Tubes can provide a whole new system of lights for the approximate sum of £12,000. It was therefore: Resolved that all recommendations be accepted.
Resolved that a letter is forwarded to Nadine Dorries M.P requesting her to take the action required.
Resolved that Cllr R Holden attends the 2009 Convention.
Resolved that permission be granted subject to the normal regulation for use of the Market Square.
Resolved that Cllrs P Duckett, G Summerfield, Mrs M Wilson and Mrs S Bacon will man the tables at the Councillors Surgery.
a) Local Councils Review Summer 2009 b) Direct Information Service issue 712 c) NALC Chief Executive Report June 2009 d) Kings Arms Path Garden - Half year report .* Copied for Members A concern was raised within the report over the fencing that is being placed along the inside of the wire fencing along the Kings Arms Path. Resolved that enquires be raised with Punch Taverns to obtain details of why the fencing is being erected as there is concern that the area between the two fences will fall into an unkempt condition. e) Bedfordshire Bugle – July 2009 * Copy provided for Members f) Clerks and Councils Direct July 2009 g) Standards Board for England Bulleting 44. h) News Central July 2009 i) Central Bedfordshire Inspired- Stakeholders Newsletter June 2009. All items of correspondence are available from the Clerk.
Councillor G Pascal advised that there was one press release to send relating to the rededication of Katherine’s Cross.
“That in view of the confidential nature of the business about to be transacted relating to staff and financial matters, it is advisable in the public interest that the public and press be temporarily excluded and that they are instructed to withdraw”
This minute is appended for Members only.
This minute is appended for Members only.
This minute is appended for Members only.
This minute is appended for Members only. There being no further business the meeting closed at 10.35pm. CHAIRMAN DATED
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